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At the time I'm posting this, your link is the only one saying Paterno has died.
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I love the age of twitter news:
"JoePa may or may not be dead, more on this story as it comes in" |
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Numerous websites around the country, from the Huffington Post to the Salt Lake Tribune to the Centre Daily Times in State College had picked up a story saying Penn State coach Joe Paterno had passed away from complications in his treatment for lung cancer, according to a CBS Sports report.
OnwardState.com had also reported via Twitter that Paterno had passed away, saying Penn State players received an e-mail confirming the news.
However, spokesman Dan McGinn, meanwhile, told New York Times reporter Mark Viera the CBS report is "absolutely not true." Jay and Scott Paterno, Joe's sons, later tweeted the same thing.
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At least his idiot son is so sad that he keeps posting on Twitter!
And please keep showing dumbass Penn State fans gathering at his statue and at a vigil...I needed a good laugh.
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And now the AP is reporting he died this morning.
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| The Sackman wrote: | At least his idiot son is so sad that he keeps posting on Twitter!
And please keep showing dumbass Penn State fans gathering at his statue and at a vigil...I needed a good laugh. |
Twitter is the fastest way to get news now, so his son tweeting that his father was still alive was a good thing in my mind for all the psu fans
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Brent Musberger on SportsCenter just said that Joe's overall accomplishments/contributions will outweigh "this little lapse in judgment."
He may want that one back...
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| dudis41 wrote: | Brent Musberger on SportsCenter just said that Joe's overall accomplishments/contributions will outweigh "this little lapse in judgment."
He may want that one back... |
Ick....that just sounds terrible. I would want that one back. When Paterno said the board needed to let home finish the season and then they wouldn't have to worry about him anymore....I think he knew about his cancer then.
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| The Sackman wrote: | At least his idiot son is so sad that he keeps posting on Twitter!
And please keep showing dumbass Penn State fans gathering at his statue and at a vigil...I needed a good laugh. |
ESPN now showing people mourning and crying in front of the statue. If he has only said to Sandusky, "Get the hell off this campus and never show yourself around here agin." Then if Paterno had just called the police, this would be a sad day.
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Paterno did call police. That's what the PSU admin was. Chief of PSU police.
Anyway. Musberger is right. In 20 years, the significance of paternos inaction will be downplayed. That's the espn way |
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| elpalito wrote: | Paterno did call police. That's what the PSU admin was. Chief of PSU police.
Anyway. Musberger is right. In 20 years, the significance of paternos inaction will be downplayed. That's the espn way |
That is one of the things some don't understand. The PSU police are just that POLICE, not security.
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The abuse that happened at Penn State is without any semblance of doubt a sickeningly burn-in-hell display of the worst of humanity. That will never be argued against plain and simple - the outcome of Sandusky's trial will in no way make up for the crimes against these kids.
But something about the cover-up stinks - at least the way it appears the way its been reported. I fail to see how this massive cover-up that happened in the highest levels of the administration could occur just to save the skin of one soon-to-burn-in-hell assistant football coach. These are smart people, and they would have to know that covering this up for years at the risk of their careers, their families, and their lives when exposing the one idiot for what he was would have been such a simple thing to do. I suspect that there is something much more sinister going on - that they were forced to stay silent - otherwise why would they stay silent? This isn't a crime like blowing the whistle on a corporate embezzler where one could potentially rationalize the cover-up. And if there is something more sinister going on, I doubt we will ever know the true story.
So people can knee-jerk and call for the tar-and-feathering of Paterno posthumously. And him staying silent was wrong - I'm not saying that his silence (and all the others silence) isn't damning. But I just think there is more to the story that caused him to stay silent, and would cause most people to stay silent even in this case. While its not the same level of crime, everybody was quick to damn the Duke LaCrosse players too. But I'm no lawyer...and maybe I've read too many John Grisham novels.......
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| I am 4Hawks wrote: | | elpalito wrote: | Paterno did call police. That's what the PSU admin was. Chief of PSU police.
Anyway. Musberger is right. In 20 years, the significance of paternos inaction will be downplayed. That's the espn way |
That is one of the things some don't understand. The PSU police are just that POLICE, not security. |
Right. And, the criticism of JoePa must rest on the assertion that he did not follow through by checking that the matter was thoroughly investigated. But, consider what this means. It means that he should have not trusted the police to do a proper investigation of an alleged child molestation. It also means that he should have checked up on his superiors' job performance. Those are two remarkable "should"s. I'm not saying that he's without culpability, just that I think the severity of his lapse was comparatively minor.
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| Was watching the story unfold on ESPN, as being reported by Keith Olbermann and Dan Patrick. |
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| Maz wrote: | | I am 4Hawks wrote: | | elpalito wrote: | Paterno did call police. That's what the PSU admin was. Chief of PSU police.
Anyway. Musberger is right. In 20 years, the significance of paternos inaction will be downplayed. That's the espn way |
That is one of the things some don't understand. The PSU police are just that POLICE, not security. |
Right. And, the criticism of JoePa must rest on the assertion that he did not follow through by checking that the matter was thoroughly investigated. But, consider what this means. It means that he should have not trusted the police to do a proper investigation of an alleged child molestation. It also means that he should have checked up on his superiors' job performance. Those are two remarkable "should"s. I'm not saying that he's without culpability, just that I think the severity of his lapse was comparatively minor. |
I agree with you. If I report a crime to the police, or chief of police, I don't think I should be accountable for following up to see they're investigating. I also think it's always a cluster---k when an organization/institution/government body investigates itself. Even if it does a perfect job there are questions.
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| KCRedskin wrote: | The abuse that happened at Penn State is without any semblance of doubt a sickeningly burn-in-hell display of the worst of humanity. That will never be argued against plain and simple - the outcome of Sandusky's trial will in no way make up for the crimes against these kids.
But something about the cover-up stinks - at least the way it appears the way its been reported. I fail to see how this massive cover-up that happened in the highest levels of the administration could occur just to save the skin of one soon-to-burn-in-hell assistant football coach. These are smart people, and they would have to know that covering this up for years at the risk of their careers, their families, and their lives when exposing the one idiot for what he was would have been such a simple thing to do. I suspect that there is something much more sinister going on - that they were forced to stay silent - otherwise why would they stay silent? This isn't a crime like blowing the whistle on a corporate embezzler where one could potentially rationalize the cover-up. And if there is something more sinister going on, I doubt we will ever know the true story.
So people can knee-jerk and call for the tar-and-feathering of Paterno posthumously. And him staying silent was wrong - I'm not saying that his silence (and all the others silence) isn't damning. But I just think there is more to the story that caused him to stay silent, and would cause most people to stay silent even in this case. While its not the same level of crime, everybody was quick to damn the Duke LaCrosse players too. But I'm no lawyer...and maybe I've read too many John Grisham novels....... |
Don't you think that Paterno himself is the "more sinister" force that made people "stay silent?"
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No.
I also don't think it was a huge cover-up involving everyone who worked at PSU. It took a few people (including Paterno) trusting the higher ups; and the higher-ups sweeping it under the rug. We want to make this bigger, broader, and 'sinister'. I think the saddest thing of all is that it took so few people to effectively hide what Sandusky was. |
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| JohnnyMac wrote: | | KCRedskin wrote: | The abuse that happened at Penn State is without any semblance of doubt a sickeningly burn-in-hell display of the worst of humanity. That will never be argued against plain and simple - the outcome of Sandusky's trial will in no way make up for the crimes against these kids.
But something about the cover-up stinks - at least the way it appears the way its been reported. I fail to see how this massive cover-up that happened in the highest levels of the administration could occur just to save the skin of one soon-to-burn-in-hell assistant football coach. These are smart people, and they would have to know that covering this up for years at the risk of their careers, their families, and their lives when exposing the one idiot for what he was would have been such a simple thing to do. I suspect that there is something much more sinister going on - that they were forced to stay silent - otherwise why would they stay silent? This isn't a crime like blowing the whistle on a corporate embezzler where one could potentially rationalize the cover-up. And if there is something more sinister going on, I doubt we will ever know the true story.
So people can knee-jerk and call for the tar-and-feathering of Paterno posthumously. And him staying silent was wrong - I'm not saying that his silence (and all the others silence) isn't damning. But I just think there is more to the story that caused him to stay silent, and would cause most people to stay silent even in this case. While its not the same level of crime, everybody was quick to damn the Duke LaCrosse players too. But I'm no lawyer...and maybe I've read too many John Grisham novels....... |
Don't you think that Paterno himself is the "more sinister" force that made people "stay silent?" |
No, I don't.
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| KC Redskin wrote: | | I suspect that there is something much more sinister going on - that they were forced to stay silent - otherwise why would they stay silent? |
Who, then, is the more sinister force you speak of?
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