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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1997, 1998, 1999, 2000

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My wife's cousin (Brian McCullough #22) played in that game.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, congratulations to JohnnyMac, Steverem, IndySkin and all other 1991 HawkTalk grads who managed to party thru the worst 4 year period in modern Miami Sports (since the 1981 when Hockey got it’s first 4 years finished)

Ok, for all of the sports the years shown are the fall since football is generally only in the fall.

The Worst 4 years of Basketball

1931 thru 1934 – 25.8 % - 16 wins, 46 losses
1930 thru 1933 – 29.0 % - 18 wins, 44 losses
1932 thru 1935 – 30.2 % - 19 wins, 44 losses
1929 thru 1932 – 30.6 % - 19 wins, 43 losses
1933 thru 1936 – 33.3 % - 21 wins, 42 losses

The Best 4 years of Basketball

1916 thru 1919 – 74.5 % - 38 wins, 13 losses
1974 thru 1977 – 71.7 % - 76 wins, 30 losses
1991 thru 1994 – 71.3 % - 87 wins, 35 losses
1992 thru 1995 – 70.8 % - 85 wins, 35 losses
1993 thru 1996 – 70.6 % - 84 wins, 35 losses


The Worst 4 years of Hockey

1985 thru 1988 – 26.5 % - 39 wins, 111 losses, 3 ties
1987 thru 1990 – 28.8 % - 40 wins, 105 losses, 8 ties
1984 thru 1987 – 29.0 % - 42 wins, 107 losses, 6 ties
1986 thru 1989 – 29.4 % - 43 wins, 107 losses, 5 ties
1983 thru 1986 – 29.9 % - 43 wins, 105 losses, 6 ties

The Best 4 years of Hockey

2007 thru 2010 – 70.8 % - 108 wins, 39 losses, 19 ties
2006 thru 2009 – 69.5 % - 109 wins, 43 losses, 17 ties
2005 thru 2008 – 68.9 % - 106 wins, 44 losses, 14 ties
2004 thru 2007 – 65.2 % - 98 wins, 49 losses, 14 ties
2003 thru 2006 – 60.3 % - 88 wins, 55 losses, 17 ties

The Worst 4 years of all 3 Sports Combined

1987 thru 1990 – 32.9 % - Football 30.7%, Basketball 39.3%, Hockey 28.8% - Class of 1991
1986 thru 1989 – 33.8 % - Football 35.6%, Basketball 36.6%, Hockey 29.4%
1988 thru 1991 – 39.3 % - Football 34.1%, Basketball 50.0%, Hockey 33.9%
1985 thru 1988 – 40.0 % - Football 48.9%, Basketball 44.7%, Hockey 26.5%
1984 thru 1987 – 47.4 % - Football 56.7%, Basketball 56.4%, Hockey 29.0%

The Best 4 years of all 3 Sports Combined

1995 thru 1998 – 64.2 % - Football 73.9%, Basketball 69.2%, Hockey 49.7% Class of 1999
1994 thru 1997 – 63.0 % - Football 65.9%, Basketball 69.5%, Hockey 53.6%
2002 thru 2005 – 62.4 % - Football 70.0%, Basketball 58.6%, Hockey 58.5%
1996 thru 1999 – 61.8 % - Football 70.5%, Basketball 63.6%, Hockey 51.3%
1991 thru 1994 – 61.2 % - Football 53.4%, Basketball 71.3%, Hockey 58.9%
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its that Raisin Bowl team from 1986 that ruined it for the class of '90. Damn you Terry Morris!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good work, d-day! Give yourself a raise.

It is amazing how quickly we turned everything around in the early 90s. Obviously, there was coaching turnover in the 3 sports all at about the same time. We made some great hires.

Also, I would suggest archiving this thread to save d-day's work for future generations.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For basketball in the '88-'89 season, did you use the record as the games were played, or the record after Miami forfeited all but like 3 games due to an ineligible player?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good work, d-day! Give yourself a raise.

It is amazing how quickly we turned everything around in the early 90s. Obviously, there was coaching turnover in the 3 sports all at about the same time. We made some great hires.

Also, I would suggest archiving this thread to save d-day's work for future generations.


Yes, however I just noticed that you guys are class of 1990 and class of 1991 was actually the worst, but 1990 wasn't far behind.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For basketball in the '88-'89 season, did you use the record as the games were played, or the record after Miami forfeited all but like 3 games due to an ineligible player?


I used what was in the Miami Media Guide, which was 5 wins & 23 losses - I just looked at the guide, and Miami forfited 8 wins, so the actual wins & losses would have been 13 wins & 15 losses.

I just checked - 1987 thru 1990/91 was still the worst 4 year period.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mowch wrote:
For basketball in the '88-'89 season, did you use the record as the games were played, or the record after Miami forfeited all but like 3 games due to an ineligible player?


I used what was in the Miami Media Guide, which was 5 wins & 23 losses - I just looked at the guide, and Miami forfited 8 wins, so the actual wins & losses would have been 13 wins & 15 losses.

I just checked - 1987 thru 1990/91 was still the worst 4 year period.


Cool, thanks. I was just wondering.

While my class of '89 deservedly takes home 4th-worst place, it really felt like 2 different eras: Frosh and soph years yielded 2 very good football teams, and a Ron Harper led NCAA Tournament hoops team. While my Junior and Senior years were just crap.

Oh, and see if anyone can beat my Senior year as the biggest pile of poo:

Football: 0-10-1
Basketball: 5-23 (yeah, there were forfeits)
Hockey: 8-24
Total: 13-57-1 19% Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mowch wrote:
For basketball in the '88-'89 season, did you use the record as the games were played, or the record after Miami forfeited all but like 3 games due to an ineligible player?


I used what was in the Miami Media Guide, which was 5 wins & 23 losses - I just looked at the guide, and Miami forfited 8 wins, so the actual wins & losses would have been 13 wins & 15 losses.

I just checked - 1987 thru 1990/91 was still the worst 4 year period.


Cool, thanks. I was just wondering.

While my class of '89 deservedly takes home 4th-worst place, it really felt like 2 different eras: Frosh and soph years yielded 2 very good football teams, and a Ron Harper led NCAA Tournament hoops team. While my Junior and Senior years were just crap.

Oh, and see if anyone can beat my Senior year as the biggest pile of poo:

Football: 0-10-1
Basketball: 5-23 (yeah, there were forfeits)
Hockey: 8-24
Total: 13-57-1 19% Embarassed


That was my freshman year...by my senior year, we went about .500 in football and won the MAC and went to the dance in bball...my patience and loyalty were rewarded!
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1986 thru 1989 – 33.8 % - Football 35.6%, Basketball 36.6%, Hockey 29.4%
I really don't remember basketball being this bad during my time at Miami. Really.
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1986 thru 1989 – 33.8 % - Football 35.6%, Basketball 36.6%, Hockey 29.4%
I really don't remember basketball being this bad during my time at Miami. Really.


Basketball

fall of 1986 13 wins 15 losses
fall of 1987 9 wins 18 losses
fall of 1988 5 wins 23 losses
fall of 1989 14 wins 15 losses

41 wins 71 losses = 36.6%

Remember Ron Harper was gone by the spring of 1986
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thechuck_2112 wrote:
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Same here. Not bad.
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2000-2004 (5-year plan!): 41-21, 66.1%


wtf... i'm older than you? that can't be right.

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Class of 1990. After the win against LSU early in the 1986 football season, it was all downhill. And the basketball really was that bad those 4 years. Actually saw people asleep in Millett on more than one Saturday afternoon.
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Those of us still around here from the classes of '90 and '91 really deserve some kind of commendation for our persistence. If anyone from the athletic department is reading this, feel free to message me, and I'll give you my mailing address. Wink
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1994 thru 1997 – 63.0 % - Football 65.9%, Basketball 69.5%, Hockey 53.6%

So this is why the kids rioted in May of 1998... the teams were just too damn good!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those that don't recall the dark days, here they are:

On Oct. 31, 1987 Miami defeated Bowling Green 17-7

Nov. 7, 1987 MU 3, U. of Miami 54
Nov. 14, 1987 MU 10, Kent 14
Sep. 3, 1988 MU 17, EMU 24
Sep. 10, 1988 MU 20, Oklahoma State 52
Sep. 17, 1988 MU 3, Minn 35
Sep. 24, 1988 MU 18, UC 34
Oct. 1, 1988 MU 14, BSU 45
Oct. 8, 1988 MU 18, WMU 41
Oct. 15, 1988 MU 21, OU 38
Oct. 22, 1988 MU 7, UT 20
Oct. 29, 1988 MU 21, BG 21
Nov. 12, 1988 MU 11, Kent 17
Sep. 9, 1989 MU 10, Purdue 27
Sep. 16, 1989 MU 0, Mich St. 49 (MSU later forfeited)
Sep. 23, 1989 MU 14, UC 30
Sep. 30, 1989 MU 7, CMU 20
Oct. 7, 1989 MU 9, BSU 37
Oct. 14, 1989 MU 22, OU 22
Oct. 21, 1989 MU 14, UT 17

On Oct. 28, 1989 Miami defeated BG 17-13
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I was a kid during the 1988-90 seasons. That 1989 should have won 5-6 games, lost some games in heartbreak fashion. Toledo game I remember most, one play away from winning and they throw a TD pass with no time left. BG game was great- tearing down those goal posts, big back Alexander running for 250yds or something like that.
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On Oct. 31, 1987 Miami defeated Bowling Green 17-7


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To me, the best era in Miami football was the period from 1973-1975. Add in 1972 and that's the best four years in my opinion.

!972: 7-3 overall, 3-3 in the MAC. Wins on the road against OU, So. Carolina and UC gave an indication of what might be coming down the road.

1973: 11-0, 5-0 in the MAC. Pure perfection Wins at Purdue and again again at So. Carolina...plus an impressive Bowl win against Florida. Team had a toughness and a real chip on their shoulder.

1974: 10-0-1, 5-0 in the MAC. A tie at Purdue marred pure perfection again. We won at Kentucky and beat a good Georgia team in the Tangerine Bowl.

1975: 11-1, 6-0 in the MAC. We lost 14-13 against Michigan State and had several chances to beat the Spartans...Missed FGs as I recall did us in. We did beat Purdue on the road and swept the conference including a 4th consecutive W against UC during this streak. We beat So. Carolina (again) in the Tangerine Bowl.


I had the pleasure to watch many of these games during this stretch and the Redskins has a special attitude and will to win that was very evident. At times, we lacked a strong 2-deep but those kids who did play ended up laying it all on the line every week. We were a team to be feared and reckoned with.

As an aside, we may again be at the doorstep of a dominating period. We have a solid nucleus this year, a couple of great recruiting years...now, all we have to do is develop the dominating attitude...which, in my opinion, likely will be the difference maker. We'll get a great insight into where we are when we play Missouri to open the season...stay tuned.
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I am 4Hawks wrote:
For those that don't recall the dark days, here they are:

On Oct. 31, 1987 Miami defeated Bowling Green 17-7

Nov. 7, 1987 MU 3, U. of Miami 54
Nov. 14, 1987 MU 10, Kent 14
Sep. 3, 1988 MU 17, EMU 24
Sep. 10, 1988 MU 20, Oklahoma State 52
Sep. 17, 1988 MU 3, Minn 35
Sep. 24, 1988 MU 18, UC 34
Oct. 1, 1988 MU 14, BSU 45
Oct. 8, 1988 MU 18, WMU 41
Oct. 15, 1988 MU 21, OU 38
Oct. 22, 1988 MU 7, UT 20
Oct. 29, 1988 MU 21, BG 21
Nov. 12, 1988 MU 11, Kent 17
Sep. 9, 1989 MU 10, Purdue 27
Sep. 16, 1989 MU 0, Mich St. 49 (MSU later forfeited)
Sep. 23, 1989 MU 14, UC 30
Sep. 30, 1989 MU 7, CMU 20
Oct. 7, 1989 MU 9, BSU 37
Oct. 14, 1989 MU 22, OU 22
Oct. 21, 1989 MU 14, UT 17

On Oct. 28, 1989 Miami defeated BG 17-13


Only team that didn't beat us was BG. Bookend wins and a tie in the middle. Definitely the dark days when I was there.
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2003(my freshman year) Miami football: 13-1 Very Happy

2006(my senior year) Miami football: 2-10 Mad

Screw you Montgomery!

All in all it was good time for Miami Sports. I watched the Hawks go to two bowl games, one NCAA tournament in basketball, and three NCAA tournaments in hockey!
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2003(my freshman year) Miami football: 13-1 Very Happy

2006(my senior year) Miami football: 2-10 Mad

Screw you Montgomery!

All in all it was good time for Miami Sports. I watched the Hawks go to two bowl games, one NCAA tournament in basketball, and three NCAA tournaments in hockey!


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