Programs to lose scholarships -

redskins4ever · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: Programs to lose scholarships -

According to today's APR announced by the NCAA

MAC

Toledo - 6 Football Scholarships
Akron - 5 Football Scholarships
Central - 2 Football Scholarships
Buffalo - 2 Football

Others Of Note

UAB - 9 Football, 2 Basketball
Idaho - 8 Football
North Texas - 5 Football
Washington State - 8 Football
Colorado State - 2 Mens Basketball
USC - 2 Men's basketball
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Spanks004 · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject:

wow, congrats toledo...is there a link to the new APR? or was this the last released one and scholly penalties now?

DevilGrad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject:

Seven hundred teams below the cut line. 218 penalized, and the rest apparently were granted waivers of some kinds.

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

Looks like most of the big boys skated . . . again.

stevo · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject:

DevilGrad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject:

I'm still digging through the information, but Miami golf, soccer, and tennis all were honored for high marks.

Of some amusement, Marshall managed to hit 926 for its football APR (the penalty "cut line" is 925), which makes them the clubhouse leader for the Bob Barker award.

DevilGrad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject:

DG's Quick and Dirty Analysis of Football APRs

The NCAA put out a list of "honor" schools by sport. You can use that to derive that the top football APRs in Division I-A were as follows:

(1) Stanford -- 986
(2) Navy -- 979
(3) Duke -- 977
(3T) Rutgers -- 977
(5) Air Force -- 976
(6) Rice -- 975
(7) Boston (of Massachusetts) College -- 972
(8T) Northwestern -- 969
(8T) Notre Dame -- 969
(8T) Miami(FL) -- 969
(11) California -- 967
(12T) MIAMI -- 965
(12T) Georgia -- 965

Penn State -- 964
Florida -- 962
Vanderbilt -- 959

REST OF THE MAC:

Ohio U -- 944
Ball State -- 941
NIU -- 930
BGSU -- 925
CMU -- 922 (penalized)
WMU -- 921
Kent -- 920
EMU -- 920
Akron -- 920
Buffalo -- 893
Toledo -- 892 (waiver?)
Temple -- 868 ("occasion 2" penalty; lost 4 schollies and had to impose a 16 hour/week limit on "countable activities")

OTHERS:

Michigan -- 951
Iowa -- 950
Indiana -- 950
Tennessee -- 948
Southern Cal -- 948
LSU -- 946
Wisconsin -- 944
Alabama -- 944
Ohio State -- 942
Texas -- 942
Ole Miss -- 939
Minnesota -- 927
Michigan State -- 926
Mississippi State -- 924
South Carolina -- 921
Purdue -- 920

mollautt · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject:

=>No MAC school lost any scholarships in men's basketball.
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DevilGrad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject:

Dave Ruthenberg (MAC Report Online) has some additional data:

http://www.ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=297689

http://macreportonline.com/index.php/20080506301/Football/Good-and-Bad-News-for-the-MAC-in-latest-APR-Scores.html

redskins4ever · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject:

OSU's basketball team somehow doesn't lose a scholarship? Three players leave early last year, another leaves this year.
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DevilGrad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject:

Indy Star: "Few Penalties for Big Schools in APR Report"

DevilGrad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject:

My prior rants on these issues:

2007 -- http://www.miamihawktalk.com/home/news/story/the_aprs_bobby_knight_was_right/

2006 -- http://www.miamihawktalk.com/home/news/story/2950/

2005 -- http://www.miamihawktalk.com/home/news/story/ncaa_academic_reform_report_miami_2_in_the_nation/

redskins4ever · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject:

Temple is at 868 and they don't lose any more football scholarships? ODD.
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Fred Sofen · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject:

Why, again, do we need, or want, Temple? AND give them preferential treatment with scheduling? I thought academics was part of our conference requirements? Not so much, I guess.

DevilGrad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject:

Hey, the Indy Star put together the entire list:

http://www.indystar.com/assets/pdf/BG10777956.PDF

Spanks004 · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject:

sucks seeing that other miami ahead of us

DevilGrad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject:

More power to them. Miami has maintained a top 15 ranking in the APR every year it has been done, but I'd like to see it become as hard to keep up in this race as it is in building facilities or paying coaches.

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Crashdad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject:

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Crashdad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject:

Here are the all-sports rankings for MAC schools, with national rank in parentheses. There are 239 D1 schools.

Miami 965 (34)
Ohio 944 (89)
Ball State 941 (102)
Northern Illinois 930 (134)
Bowling Green 925 (157)
Central Michigan 922 (161)
Kent 921 (163)
Western Michigan 921 (163)
Akron 920 (170)
Eastern Michigan 920 (170)
Buffalo 893 (218)
Toledo 892 (219)
Temple 868 (232)
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Crashdad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject:

...and some other schools we love to hate:

Dayton 977 (1 Cool

Butlerban 947 (7 Cool

OSU 942 (9 Cool

Cincy 939 (111)
Marshallll 926 (149)

Each of these would rank in the top half of the MAC APR-wise.
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Crashdad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject:

...and a final piece of analysis before I hit the sack:

Number of BCS schools in top 20% APR: 12 (Stanford, Duke, Rutgers, Boston (of Massachusetts) College, Northwestern, Miami Fla, Notre Dame, Cal, Georgia, Penn State, Wake, Florida)

Number of BCS schools in bottom 20% APR: 2 (Arkansas, Arizona).
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redskins4ever · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject:

Recalculate your numbers Crashdad based upon only Division I-A Football schools and see if you get the same results. There has been plenty written about how the APR works strongly against Historically Black colleges.
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Crashdad · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject:

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DevilGrad · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:12 am Post subject:

The APR as "class warfare:" Link

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