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| 4. Butler |
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| 7. Some other school |
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| 8. None. He will join the circus as be known as the "Amazing Rebounder!" |
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mollautt
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 Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: Matt Howard's Comments On Purdue |
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=>From Lafeyette Journal & Courier
http://www.jconline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060718/COLUMNISTS11/607180314
| Quote: | With one scholarship for 2006-07 remaining, offers are on the table to Hummel's teammate Scott Martin, a 6-8 forward, and to Connersville's 6-7 forward Matt Howard, who reminds me of a young Brian Cardinal but with lots more hair.
The one who raises his hand first will complete Painter's windfall class, which ranks right up there with Troy Lewis, Todd Mitchell and Everette Stephens from 1984, and with Mike Robinson, Jaraan Cornell and Gary McQuay in 1996.
But more than the fact Moore, Hummel and Johnson are Top 100 players by Rivals.com, Painter has made significant inroads into Indiana, where Purdue seems to have been a dirty word to recruits in recent seasons.
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Hummel said friend and high school teammate Martin probably will pick either Purdue or Michigan. If Martin goes to Ann Arbor, Howard will be right there in the Boilermaker mix.
In June, Howard said something that several Indiana kids are saying these days -- that Painter got their full and undivided attention in 2003-04, when he guided Southern Illinois to a memorable season after taking over for Bruce Weber.
"Look what he did at Southern Illinois," Howard said. "Imagine what he could do with Big Ten-like talent." |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:42 am Post subject: |
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=>More from Purdue site (story mostly about Hummel's teammate Scott Martin)...
http://purdue.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=562213
| Quote: | Yes, Hummel and Moore have stuck to that makeshift plan.
"Hopefully," Moore said., "Scott will make the decision to come along, too."
With one scholarship left to give for 2007, Coach Matt Painter has offers out to both Martin and Connersville forward Matt Howard.
But with two-thirds of the SYF trio having committed in the past hundred hours or so, it's Martin who'll now be getting recruited harder by his teammates than any college coach.
"I'm hoping (Martin will pick Purdue, also)," Hummel said. "I'm going to try to get him down there. We'll have our little chats and E'twaun and I will talk to him. We'll see."
But on Monday, it may have gained a little more steam, for two reasons: 1) The others have now committed and 2) Purdue's down to one scholarship and Martin, theoretically, might need to act quickly if he indeed does want to join Hummel and Moore in West Lafayette.
After watching Hummel's press conference from the back of a crowded room at his high school, Martin made it crystal clear his decision will be made independent of those of his teammates. |
This post on a Purdue board said Martin and Howard are done deals for Purdue. Given that there is only one schollie to give, who walks on????
http://purdue.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=52&mid=75933250&sid=&tid=75933250&style=1
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=>From Indy Star...
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060718/SPORTS0602/607180448
| Quote: | The Boilermakers have one scholarship left and are targeting two other top-100 players in 6-6 forward Scott Martin, Hummel's teammate at Valparaiso and with SYF, and 6-7 forward Matt Howard, Connersville.
"Momentum in recruiting is crucial, and this sort of propels them into the national consciousness, and that can't be underestimated," rivals.com's Jerry Meyer said. "The younger prospects keep up with that. They'll be wondering, 'What's going on at Purdue? Why are these guys all wanting to play there?' "
The Boilermakers are coming off an injury-plagued 9-19 season, including a 3-13 Big Ten finish. Painter, who played at Purdue, is starting his second year as coach.
The Boilermakers last won 20 games in 1999-2000 (24-10).
"They definitely need a new infusion, some higher caliber kids for the future and they're getting them," recruiting analyst Bob Gibbons said. "Recruiting is the life blood of college athletics, and Painter just got a big transplant." |
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Obviously the Purdue message boards and the IndyStar have an inherent bias, but this is not looking good at all. Although Howard had commented he wanted a smaller school, and Miami is definately just that.
I am hoping it is just speculation that Howard is wrapped up even if Martin commits because I can't imagine that he would rather walk on at Purdue than be a scholarship player with a decent amount of playing time at Miami.
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| HoosierHawk wrote: | Obviously the Purdue message boards and the IndyStar have an inherent bias, but this is not looking good at all. Though Howard had commented he wanted a smaller school, and Purdue is definately just that.
I am hoping it is just speculation that Howard is wrapped up even if Martin commits because I can't imagine that he would rather walk on at Purdue than be a scholarship player with a decent amount of playing time at Miami. |
I am not sure how you define smaller university. For the 2004-05 academic calendar Purdue had 30,747 undergraduates. To me that is not small. Throw in 924 professional students and 6982 graduate students and the enrollment in West Lafayette alone is 38, 653. These figures are from Purdue's official website.
http://www.purdue.edu/datadigest/pages/peer_university/peer_enrollment.htm |
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Not good news for us if true and if Howard likes Purdue which apparently he does. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| bluesman wrote: |
Not good news for us if true and if Howard likes Purdue which apparently he does. |
actually not good for Purdue as Miami still has 3 scholarships available and Howard also says he likes Miami. 
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| NickSkin wrote: | | bluesman wrote: |
Not good news for us if true and if Howard likes Purdue which apparently he does. |
actually not good for Purdue as Miami still has 3 scholarships available and Howard also says he likes Miami. |
Nice spin, counselor!! |
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| bluesman wrote: | | HoosierHawk wrote: | Obviously the Purdue message boards and the IndyStar have an inherent bias, but this is not looking good at all. Though Howard had commented he wanted a smaller school, and Purdue is definately just that.
I am hoping it is just speculation that Howard is wrapped up even if Martin commits because I can't imagine that he would rather walk on at Purdue than be a scholarship player with a decent amount of playing time at Miami. |
I am not sure how you define smaller university. For the 2004-05 academic calendar Purdue had 30,747 undergraduates. To me that is not small. Throw in 924 professional students and 6982 graduate students and the enrollment in West Lafayette alone is 38, 653. These figures are from Purdue's official website.
http://www.purdue.edu/datadigest/pages/peer_university/peer_enrollment.htm |
Yeah that was a typo, I meant to say Miami is just that. The reason I am here and not in Bloomington/West Laf is because of those numbers you just cited (although West Laf was never a serious option for me). |
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| HoosierHawk wrote: | | bluesman wrote: | | HoosierHawk wrote: | Obviously the Purdue message boards and the IndyStar have an inherent bias, but this is not looking good at all. Though Howard had commented he wanted a smaller school, and Purdue is definately just that.
I am hoping it is just speculation that Howard is wrapped up even if Martin commits because I can't imagine that he would rather walk on at Purdue than be a scholarship player with a decent amount of playing time at Miami. |
I am not sure how you define smaller university. For the 2004-05 academic calendar Purdue had 30,747 undergraduates. To me that is not small. Throw in 924 professional students and 6982 graduate students and the enrollment in West Lafayette alone is 38, 653. These figures are from Purdue's official website.
http://www.purdue.edu/datadigest/pages/peer_university/peer_enrollment.htm |
Yeah that was a typo, I meant to say Miami is just that. The reason I am here and not in Bloomington/West Laf is because of those numbers you just cited (although West Laf was never a serious option for me). |
Guess I can let it slide although I wish you would get rid of that hideous IU logo!! |
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| bluesman wrote: | | HoosierHawk wrote: | | bluesman wrote: | | HoosierHawk wrote: | Obviously the Purdue message boards and the IndyStar have an inherent bias, but this is not looking good at all. Though Howard had commented he wanted a smaller school, and Purdue is definately just that.
I am hoping it is just speculation that Howard is wrapped up even if Martin commits because I can't imagine that he would rather walk on at Purdue than be a scholarship player with a decent amount of playing time at Miami. |
I am not sure how you define smaller university. For the 2004-05 academic calendar Purdue had 30,747 undergraduates. To me that is not small. Throw in 924 professional students and 6982 graduate students and the enrollment in West Lafayette alone is 38, 653. These figures are from Purdue's official website.
http://www.purdue.edu/datadigest/pages/peer_university/peer_enrollment.htm |
Yeah that was a typo, I meant to say Miami is just that. The reason I am here and not in Bloomington/West Laf is because of those numbers you just cited (although West Laf was never a serious option for me). |
Guess I can let it slide although I wish you would get rid of that hideous IU logo!! |
=>Hey! There is nothing wrong with an IU fan who happens to be a Miami student or alumnist as long as Miami stays #1.
On that note, I attended a dinner at the K of C of Batesville, Indiana last night where Coach Sampson spoke. There were 370 IU fans in attendance - the meeting hall was packed.
Highlights:
1. Try to keep in state players. He could not specifically comment on individual players.
2. Academics are important. He said he has never failed to graduate a player who wanted to graduate. Every player has 3 hours of study hall a week with an individual tutor (even though they are only taking one class during the summer). He does not allow group study.
3. Paid homage to Bob Knight. Said he was a great coach and after coaching against him the last few years, he noted that Coach Knight always got the most out of what he had in his Texas Tech players.
4. Complimented Mike Davis for recruiting good kids to Indiana. Said all players were welcoming to him and were easy to work with.
5. Made this comment, "shooting is not an equal opportunity position." He says if you can't shoot, you will not be allowed to shoot. He decides who the shooters are.
6. The game is played at the rim. He wants to attack the basket and make more free throws than his opponents attempt. He said it is nice to have 3 point shooters, but does not want to live and die with it. He said that teams that rely on outside shooting are "soft."
7. IU's schedule includes games at UConn, Duke, and UK.
8. Defense philosophy: "don't let the other team score." He says his teams are physical and foul alot. He said if you keep fouling, the refs eventually get sick of blowing the whistle and let the teams play.
9. He hinted, but did not specifically ask for facilities upgrades. He talked about tOSU's and MSU's plush new arenas. He talked about the nice player lounges, lockerrooms, and weight room at these places. Along these lines, he said you cannot live in past and must be proactive. He mentioned that the players he is recruiting now (16 year olds) were born in 1990. I assume he was implying that IU's 5 titles, the last one 3 years before they were born, are not going to win kids over. If you think about it, these kids were 3 years old when Calbert Cheney lead IU to a 17-1 B10 mark in Bob Knight's last great team in 1993.
10. Asst. Ray McCallum was in attendance, but did not speak.
11. In kinda a contrast to #9 above, he said people are concerned about "keeping up with the Jones." He said at IU, "we are the Jones."
12. Talk briefly about what a great guy (and great golfer) Terry Hoeppner is.
13. Said one of the reasons he left Oklahoma was Indiana was a basketball state.
14. He ducked a question about Bruce Weber and Gordon. I think this question obviously bugged him a little.
15. He plans on flying down to meet with Mark Cuban in August.
16. When asked what type of guy he is, he replied, "I am Batesville." He said he is down to earth guy and etc.
17. Talked about starting off as a grad ass't at MSU under Heathcote. Said his #1 job was not to piss off Judd. He said Izzo was his grad ass't replacement and that Izzo just never left.
18. Jokingly said he cannot believe IU beat his Oklahoma team in the Final Four.
19. Buckner and Alford are his friends.
20. He has been to Iraq and Kuwait with other coaches (Bobby Cremins, ESPN's Jay Bilas, Mike Goddfried, and others) to coach military basketball teams. He saw a giant photograph of the WTC burning with people on fire and etc. at a base. The caption read, "Never forget why we are here." He said he got emotional seeing it.
21. First thing he learned when coming to IU was that Purdue was their rival. He then started picking on a guy who happened to be wearing a gold and black golf shirt.
22. When asked about Cem Dinc, he pointed to a giant roster on the wall (which did not include Dinc) and said, "this roster seems pretty accurate." He said he had never spoken to Dinc moved to another question.
23. He said he is really looking forward to this year's team. He thinks they will be good.
23. JUCO Lance Stemler is a "poor man's Novak." Said he is a great 3 point shooter.
24. He said the NCAA allows coaches to spend 2 hours a week in drills with their players. He knew DJ was thinking of leaving. So in his drills they instituted a couple of his motion offense high/low sets. He said in each set there are a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd option. He made sure that in each set, DJ was the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd option. After the first week, DJ was knocking on his door asking coach about recruiting more players. Apparently, DJ really liked this offense! Coach said he no longer had to worry about recruiting DJ to stay.
25. Accountability is important to him. Each player has to stop by and see him everyday. It can be for nothing more than a brief high five or a hug.
26. Recruiting is about building relationships. He said you have to earn the right from the player to ask him to accept a scholarship.
27. One highlight of coaching is hearing from former players who think enough of him to call and tell them about something that is going on in their lives. Examples he gave are new babies and promotions at work.
28. The time clock problem in the Oklahoma-Texas Tech game a few years ago was not his fault, but rather a refs fault.
29. AD's never offer a job unless you accept it first. He said Greenspan asked, "If we would offer you the job, would you accept it?"
30. His father was a basketball coach during segregation. His father is his #1 inspiration for enduring despite segregation.
31. Mentioned he averaged 24 wins a season at Oklahoma.
32. Hinted that MSU is the marquee team in the B10 now and that IU will be back at the top.
33. He would rather be remembered as being a great man instead of a great coach (or something to that effect).
34. Started the speech by saying that someone asked him if IU was going to win all its games this year. He said he responded, "probably not. I saw last year's team and they lost 12 games. And now they lost the top 3 scorers." He then went on to say that he thinks the team will be pretty good this year (see above).
35. He will recruit 4 year players as a focus over JUCOs. However, he said he would like to have a 4 year player who stays 1 year. Then said that he means a player who goes pro after one year instead of transfers. He named Carmelo Anthony as an example.
36. He stated that having tall players is overrated. He would rather have good players than tall players. He said George Mason's front line was 6-7 and down, but yet they could play. He would rather play a 6-6 forward than a 7 footer with no talent.
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| Lance Stemmler is a terrific player I tried to get us to recruit. Went to a JC near St. Louis, in nearby Belleville, Illinois. |
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| mollautt wrote: | | 2. Academics are important. He said he has never failed to graduate a player who wanted to graduate. Every player has 3 hours of study hall a week with an individual tutor (even though they are only taking one class during the summer). He does not allow group study. |
Coach speak. Even Chuggy Bear probably would claim that. The real issue is whether he has recruited players that just don't belong on a college campus, even with the extra help that they get.
| mollautt wrote: | | 36. He stated that having tall players is overrated. He would rather have good players than tall players. He said George Mason's front line was 6-7 and down, but yet they could play. He would rather play a 6-6 forward than a 7 footer with no talent. |
Some folks around here may need to be resuscitated.
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| DevilGrad wrote: | | mollautt wrote: | | 2. Academics are important. He said he has never failed to graduate a player who wanted to graduate. Every player has 3 hours of study hall a week with an individual tutor (even though they are only taking one class during the summer). He does not allow group study. |
Coach speak. Even Chuggy Bear probably would claim that. The real issue is whether he has recruited players that just don't belong on a college campus, even with the extra help that they get.
| mollautt wrote: | | 36. He stated that having tall players is overrated. He would rather have good players than tall players. He said George Mason's front line was 6-7 and down, but yet they could play. He would rather play a 6-6 forward than a 7 footer with no talent. |
Some folks around here may need to be resuscitated. |
I believe the key part of the George Mason quote is the 6'6"-6'7" guys could play. I agree. Which is why I would love to see Matt Howard. |
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Man, with mollautt here, I don't even need to go to an IU message board to follow my childhood team, I get all my Miami and IU news in the same spots, what could be better?
And yes, its definately Miami first, IU seconds. If they ever face off, I will be wearing Red and White, not Cream and Crimson. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:43 am Post subject: POTENTIALL GOOD NEWS ON THE HOWARD FRONT |
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=>POTENTIALLY GOOD NEW ON HOWARD FRONT if you follow the dominos.
Purdue has one 'ship left which apparently is open for either Scott Martin or Howard. The one that claims it first gets it. One of the leaders for Martin is Michigan. Michigan just got a verbal (actually a "reverbal" since he decommitted from Michigan earlier) from Alex Legion. The Detroit Free Press wrote "Even though the Wolverines were recruiting a number of other 2007 players, Legion completes the class."
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060719/SPORTS06/607190418/1048/SPORTS
That may push Martin into a verbal to Purdue which would take the Boilermakers out of the race for Howard.
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