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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:22 pm    Post subject: Cradle of Coaches Statues: anyone else bothered by this? Reply with quote

Four more statues will be unveiled Saturday in the Cradle of Coaches Plaza. That's great! But...

Why did we choose to immortalize these coaches in the logos/words of the universities they left us for instead of Miami? Why will Parseghian's statue have a Notre Dame sweatshirt instead of a Miami one?

Anyone else bothered by this? They were coaches at Miami after all.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From muredhawks.com release:

"Each of the life-like features will be designed in a similar vocabulary with a bronze casting and will feature the coach at the height of his coaching fame. "

http://www.muredhawks.com/search/mioh-ysearch.html?mioh=muredhawks.com&school=mioh&s3q=statues
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shudder at the thought of something essentially championing ND's success on our campus, Miami connection or not.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tws wrote:
From muredhawks.com release:

"Each of the life-like features will be designed in a similar vocabulary with a bronze casting and will feature the coach at the height of his coaching fame. "

http://www.muredhawks.com/search/mioh-ysearch.html?mioh=muredhawks.com&school=mioh&s3q=statues


Given that it's the Cradle of Coaches, shouldn't we feature the coaches at the start of their coaching fame?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feeling like I am taking Andy Rooney's place in life today, I am not happy that each coach does not have a Miami shirt,coat or hat on. I think there "claim to fame" should certainly be listed on a very prominent place on a very visible plaque. I don't even like our students wearing other schools (read OSU) apparel to games. I certainly want to celebrate these outstanding coaches as "Miami Men".
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant stand it!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

/maturity off

I hate this. I hate the lack of a scalp song. I hate the banning of student signs. I hate the stupid bird noise. I hate every decision ever made by this athetlic department/marketing.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Complete and total bs...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree with the comments above- should we have BR's #7 in black and gold?

How can you ask your students and alumni to support Miami- when you have plaques saying there is better FB at ND, Michigan, Yale and whatever.

When Charlie Coles number is retired will it be in Central Michigan colors?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darrtowndawg wrote:
Cant stand it!


Can't stand ya!



Oh, sorry. Thought this was the Word Association thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Cradle of Coaches Statues: anyone else bothered by this? Reply with quote

MUfan98 wrote:
Anyone else bothered by this?


Yes.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Cradle of Coaches Statues: anyone else bothered by this? Reply with quote

Maz wrote:
MUfan98 wrote:
Anyone else bothered by this?


Yes.


we agree on something!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who gave the money for the statues? Did the donor have artistic control?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. I noticed that last Saturday.

I think some enterprising Hawktalkers should put a Miami hat on each statue each and every game day.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crashdad wrote:
Yes. I noticed that last Saturday.

I think some enterprising Hawktalkers should put a Miami hat and Redskins shirt on each statue each and every game day.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crashdad wrote:
Yes. I noticed that last Saturday.

I think some enterprising Hawktalkers should put a Miami hat on each statue each and every game day.


Really, if there is no possible damage to the statues, that would be a cool tradition--I vote yes. Of course you may find some who would be against it. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Crashdad wrote:
Yes. I noticed that last Saturday.

I think some enterprising Hawktalkers should put a Miami hat on each statue each and every game day.


Really, if there is no possible damage to the statues, that would be a cool tradition--I vote yes. Of course you may find some who would be against it. Rolling Eyes


Ha! You and your silly thoughts of democracy! Wink

(But yes, probably someone would complain, and then the MUPD would arrest people who put hats on the statutes.)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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skin66 wrote:
Crashdad wrote:
Yes. I noticed that last Saturday.

I think some enterprising Hawktalkers should put a Miami hat on each statue each and every game day.


Really, if there is no possible damage to the statues, that would be a cool tradition--I vote yes. Of course you may find some who would be against it. Rolling Eyes


Ha! You and your silly thoughts of democracy! Wink

(But yes, probably someone would complain, and then the MUPD would arrest people who put hats on the statutes.)


What for littering? That's not damage...

Now spray painting a red block M on the chest of the statues would be better...but yes one would be arrested for this.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disorderly conduct or something. It's not like it's hard for motivated police to make some BS charge stick.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember a few years ago when the mural behind the scoreboard (that says Cradle of Coaches) was changed, B2 said he wanted to do it because the old one featured the coaches while they were at other schools. So they changed it so it featured the coaches shown while at Miami.. but now the statues seem to be going backward...
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But really officer, the wind blew it up there and I was just getting it down!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old are the men when statued? If the statue is based on a photo of Schembechler at an age when he was at Michigan, thenI can see why he has Michigan gear.

If the statues are of them at a younger age, when they were at Miami, they should be in Miami gear.

I have not seen the statues...I've gone only to Miami road games the last few years, it seems.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How old are the men when statued? If the statue is based on a photo of Schembechler at an age when he was at Michigan, thenI can see why he has Michigan gear.

If the statues are of them at a younger age, when they were at Miami, they should be in Miami gear.

I have not seen the statues...I've gone only to Miami road games the last few years, it seems.


I don't care...make the statues appropriate for the time they were at Miami.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree with all of you. If you have statues of these men in their Miami years nobody would recognize them. They are represented in their coaching prime. I think it is a compliment to Miami that so many great coaches started here and went on to gain national recognition at other schools.

Nine out of 10 people on the street would identify Bo as being a Michigan coach. It's where he became famous. The same for the rest of them; Earl Blaik is known as the legendary Army coach, not for anything he did at Miami.

I don't see an issue here. If anything it shows visitors that these men that they only identified with Michigan or Army or the Cleveland Browns all started here.
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