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mollautt Credible Threat and Board Hussy

Joined: 26 Jun 2002 Posts: 21904 Location: Milford, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: 4 Open Spots: Who Will Get Them? |
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=>Here are the realistic possibilities of players who can end up and Miami (in my opinion and my opinion only):
BIGS - likely will take just 1
PF Reggie Keely:
PF Drew Kelly:
PF Danny McElroy:
C Drew McGhee:
PF Richie Phares*:
WINGS - Likely take 2 (1 WF, 1 2G), possibly 3
WF/PF Mark Anderson:
2G/WF Drew Barham*:
2G/WF/PF Bill Edwards:
WF Marquis Horne:
2G Colt Ryan:
2G Matt Vogrich:
Mystery JUCO/Transfer*: ?????
BALLHANDLERS - likely take 1, maybe 2.
CG Allen Roberts:
CG Aaron Robinson*:
Mystery JUCO/Transfer*: ?????
* = No known Miami offer
NOTE: Miami could also hold back 1 or 2 scholarships for the class of 2010. The Ohio class of 2010 is one of the strongest classes in years and Miami will only graduate 1 senior that year (Fletcher). It may be wise to hold some spots for that class. _________________ @dandakich "Yo Minnesota ..old school IU fans didn't think a state of the art practice facility was necessary either..old school means old results"
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stevo Wealthy Alum


Joined: 25 Nov 2003 Posts: 2715 Location: Wooster
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Moll - I recall you writing over the past six months to a year that the 2009 class was the strongest in years. Has that not ended up being true, or is the 2010 class even stronger than a very strong 2009.
Or, the most deflating possibility, is Miami losing out on the kids who make it a strong class? |
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mollautt Credible Threat and Board Hussy

Joined: 26 Jun 2002 Posts: 21904 Location: Milford, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| stevo wrote: | Moll - I recall you writing over the past six months to a year that the 2009 class was the strongest in years. Has that not ended up being true, or is the 2010 class even stronger than a very strong 2009.
Or, the most deflating possibility, is Miami losing out on the kids who make it a strong class? |
=>I don't think I ever said 2009 was one of the strongest in years. I believe I said Miami had a chance to have one of the best recruiting classes in years. I have never seen Miami legitimately in on some many very good players before.
Right now, Miami is good shape with the #4 (B.E.), #5 (Horne), #7 (McGhee), #8 (Keely), #9 (Orlando Williams-VERBAL), and #10 (McElroy) player in the state. Colt Ryan is the #1 player in Southern Indiana. Matt Vogrich is #4 in strong Illinois 2009 class. Drew Kelly is top 5 in Tennessee. Richie Phares is #2 in Kentucky. JUCO Mark Anderson led the nation in scoring as a frosh last year and named 2nd team All-American and would be a favorite to be named national player of the year. Drew Barham, along with Vogrich, is one of the best shooting in the nation.
At one time, Chris Colvin (#1 in Illinois) and Carl Jones (#2 in Ohio) were strongly considering Miami.
Overall, the Ohio class of 2009 is somewhat down to be honest. Consider that UC, Xavier, and OSU have not secured commitments from any Ohio 2009 kids and are not really looking to do so.
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If Miami would land a 5 man recruiting class of...
CG Orlando Williams,
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2G Colt Ryan or Matt Vogrich,
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2G/WF/PF Billy Edwards or WF Marquis Horne,
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WF/PF Mark Anderson,
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PF Drew Kelly or PF Reggie Keely or PF Danny McElroy or Drew McGhee,
...it would be easily the best recruiting class since the 2005 class of Wally, Damon, A-Train, Mestas, and Ira Newble (greatest class in school history). It would unreal. I am not sh!tting you. Maybe the best midmajor recruiting class in the nation of going by pure talent (and not Hoopscoop's convoluted ranking system that ranked Ivan Renko so high ) -- top 5 minimum.
At a minimum, it would be at least as good as the Juby/Seals/Mason class.  _________________ @dandakich "Yo Minnesota ..old school IU fans didn't think a state of the art practice facility was necessary either..old school means old results"
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CoachTD Summer Orientee

Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 14
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| mollautt wrote: | | stevo wrote: | Moll - I recall you writing over the past six months to a year that the 2009 class was the strongest in years. Has that not ended up being true, or is the 2010 class even stronger than a very strong 2009.
Or, the most deflating possibility, is Miami losing out on the kids who make it a strong class? |
=>I don't think I ever said 2009 was one of the strongest in years. I believe I said Miami had a chance to have one of the best recruiting classes in years. I have never seen Miami legitimately in on some many very good players before.
Right now, Miami is good shape with the #4 (B.E.), #5 (Horne), #7 (McGhee), #8 (Keely), #9 (Orlando Williams-VERBAL), and #10 (McElroy) player in the state. Colt Ryan is the #1 player in Southern Indiana. Matt Vogrich is #4 in strong Illinois 2009 class. Drew Kelly is top 5 in Tennessee. Richie Phares is #2 in Kentucky. JUCO Mark Anderson led the nation in scoring as a frosh last year and named 2nd team All-American and would be a favorite to be named national player of the year. Drew Barham, along with Vogrich, is one of the best shooting in the nation.
At one time, Chris Colvin (#1 in Illinois) and Carl Jones (#2 in Ohio) were strongly considering Miami.
Overall, the Ohio class of 2009 is somewhat down to be honest. Consider that UC, Xavier, and OSU have not secured commitments from any Ohio 2009 kids and are not really looking to do so.
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If Miami would land a 5 man recruiting class of...
CG Orlando Williams,
AND
2G Colt Ryan or Matt Vogrich,
AND
2G/WF/PF Billy Edwards or WF Marquis Horne,
AND
WF/PF Mark Anderson,
AND
PF Drew Kelly or PF Reggie Keely or PF Danny McElroy or Drew McGhee,
...it would be easily the best recruiting class since the 2005 class of Wally, Damon, A-Train, Mestas, and Ira Newble (greatest class in school history). It would unreal. I am not sh!tting you. Maybe the best midmajor recruiting class in the nation of going by pure talent (and not Hoopscoop's convoluted ranking system that ranked Ivan Renko so high ) -- top 5 minimum.
At a minimum, it would be at least as good as the Juby/Seals/Mason class.  | 6-4 SG Jacob Jenkins is now the #2 player in Kentucky and may even out-seat Hood for Mr. Basketball this year. Jenkins and Hood will square off in every major showcase event in Kentucky this season. Don't count Jenkins out as an 09 prospect. |
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mollautt Credible Threat and Board Hussy

Joined: 26 Jun 2002 Posts: 21904 Location: Milford, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| CoachTD wrote: | | 6-4 SG Jacob Jenkins is now the #2 player in Kentucky and may even out-seat Hood for Mr. Basketball this year. Jenkins and Hood will square off in every major showcase event in Kentucky this season. Don't count Jenkins out as an 09 prospect. |
=>By what publication? I was going to BGI.
http://www.bluegrassinsider.com/
Rick Bolus never breaks it down.
http://www.kyprephoops.com/0809/May08BolusKYBoys.html _________________ @dandakich "Yo Minnesota ..old school IU fans didn't think a state of the art practice facility was necessary either..old school means old results"
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CoachTD Summer Orientee

Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 14
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| mollautt wrote: | | CoachTD wrote: | | 6-4 SG Jacob Jenkins is now the #2 player in Kentucky and may even out-seat Hood for Mr. Basketball this year. Jenkins and Hood will square off in every major showcase event in Kentucky this season. Don't count Jenkins out as an 09 prospect. |
=>By what publication? I was going to BGI.
http://www.bluegrassinsider.com/
Rick Bolus never breaks it down.
http://www.kyprephoops.com/0809/May08BolusKYBoys.html |
BGI is a ranking done by one person, Chris Fisher. The site is less than a year old and I wouldn't put much weight into that.
Bolus has it for the Class of '09 as they are listed in order:
1. Jon Hood
2. Jacob Jenkins
3. CJ Penny
4. Garrison Collins
5. Wes Cox
6. Richie Phares
Bolus has been in the business for 30 years as oppose to BGI for 9 months.
Rivals has Jenkins a 3-star and Phares a 2-star.
Phares holds no D1 offers, Jenkins holds several.
I think its also interesting to note Jenkins led the Kentucky junior allstar team for the 2 games in nearly every single stat including points (21 ppg), rebounds (6.5 apg), and assists (3 apg) while hitting over 70% of his shots. The team included Hood, Penny, and Phares. |
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